HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-08-23-Special Minutes_Joint P&Z MeetingWAUKEE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING &ZONING
AUGUST 23,2004
(1)Call to Order -The special meeting of the Waukee City Council was cal1ed to order
by Mayor Oberman at 7:00 PM.
(2)Roll Call-The fol1owing members were present:Tony Oberman,Mayor,and
Council members Nicholas Gruber,JeffV.Mertz,and Bill Peard.Don Bailey,Jr.and
Darlene Stanton absent.Planning and Zoning members present:Chair Jerry Steele,Mary
White,Frank Hoifeldt,Mel Willits,Joe Schmidt.Absent:Doug Krantz and Eric
Korpanty
(3)Agenda Approval -No changes.Nick Gruber moved;Jeff Mertz second to approve
the agenda as written.Ayes:Gruber,Mertz,Peard.Nays:None.Absent:Bailey and
Stanton.Motion carried 3 -0 -2.
(4)Resolution:Approving September 13,2004 as the date of a public hearing for the
authorization of a loan agreement witli Charter-Bank for the purchase of a 2003
Emergency 95 Aerial Platform on a CII Custom Chassis Ladder Fire Truck from EDM
Equipment Bill Peard moved to approve the resolution.Jeff Mertz second.Rol1 cal1:
Ayes:Peard,Mertz,Gruber.Nays:None.Absent:Stanton and Bailey.Motion carried 3
-0-2.
(5)Discussion:Review of Items covered in the last two joint meetings plus
consideration of new items briefly discussed during the two joint meetings:
a.Conditional Uses
b.Lighting standards in ordinance
c.Roof pitch described in ordinance
d.Overland Park,KS ordinances
e.Examination of existing zoning designations
f Discuss Residential Zoning Districts
-R-2 zoning vs.R-1
-Architecture standards for R-4
-Condo and Apartment conversions
g.Discussion of park dedication requirements
h.Should all Municipal Code changes in Chapters 301 -304 be
presented to P&Z before going to Council?
i.Roll of the Council rep at P and Z
Item a,-Conditional Uses:There was not a lot of support from the Council or from
Planning &Zoning Commission for Conditional Uses in the various Zoning Districts,
Members suggested using some other method to achieve the same end result of restricting
the uses allowed in certain zoned areas,
Item b.-Lighting standards in ordinance:TIns item will continue to be a topic of
discussion through all of2004 and probably into 2005.Van tours of Waukee to check for
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light spillage of street and commercial lights will occur later in the year after day light
savings time has ended.Council and P&Z members were somewhat reluctant to consider
regulation of outside residential lighting.
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Item c.-Whether Roof pitch should be described in ordinance:Preferences and the
merits of flat vs.pitched roofs were discussed.Also covering from view the air handlers
frequently located on the central area of a flat roof was discussed.Other than requiring
all air handlers on roofs to be screened,a specific recommendation was not promoted.
Item d.-Overland Park,KS ordinances:Areas covered by the ordinances were:
Commercial Design Guidelines and Standards;Multi-family Residential Design
Guidelines and Standards;Landscaping Requirements and Standards;General Street
Construction Design Standards;Downtown Street/Screening/Parking Design Standards;
and Downtown General Design Guidelines.Many members liked the Overland Park
Municipal Code.It was suggested by several that city staff review the ordinances and
select those sections which seem most appropriate to Waukee.P &Z and Council would
then review our current Code and the proposed changes to the Code.
Item e.-Existing Zoning Districts:Discussion centered on the zoning already existing
in areas where Alice's Road will extend to 1-80.A concern was also stated as to whether
undeveloped land,zoned several years back,should retain the zoning or revert to A-I.It
was suggested that a meeting of the land owners along the proposed Alice's Road
Corridor occur.Staff indicated that a September 7th Public Hearing will be held to
discuss Alice's Road Corridor and zoning that is proposed for the corridor and the zoning
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Item f.-Residential Zoning Districts:This topic was divided into (1)R-I vs.R-2 -the
question for this section was whether Waukee should require certain areas to develop
under R-I requirements or if we should require a balance between R-l and R-2 as new
zoning is applied.Because we have a large number ofR-2 Districts,which require a 65'
lot and 8000 square feet for a single family dwelling,we seem to have an overabundance
of this size lot and structure size.Requiting developers to mix R-l and R-2 or to zone for
one or the other would indicate to developers that certain areas are meant to be the larger
size lot and structure size.The council wished to discuss this further;(2)Architecture
standards for R-4.-it was suggested that requirement of a certain percentage of hard
surface on the exterior ofthe building be added to the R-4 standards.Examples of town
homes in Ankeny,Altoona and West Des Moines were discussed;(3)Condo and
Apartment conversions are zoned R-3 -It was suggested that more specific requirements
for each would be permitted,if the two were separated and the zoning was identified as
R-3 and R-3A.
Item g -Park Dedication Requirements -The present park dedication ordinance requires
that a developer provide developed park ground,not simply raw ground.Many
developers do not want to invest in providing playground equipment,ball fields,tennis
courts,etc.They would much prefer providing raw ground,which would be improved by
the City or by interested citizens.Staff would like both Council and Planning &Zoning )
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to commit to ensuring that developers provide developed parks or development costs
rather than bare park space.
Item h -Should an ordinances changing Municipal Code Chapters 301 -304 be
presented to P&Z before going to Council:After a brief discussion,Council and Planning
and Zoning recommended that ordinances related to 301,303 and 304 be submitted to
P &Z before going to the Council,
Item i -Council representative at P &Z:It was suggested that the Planning &Zoning
rep as well as any other Council representative to a board or committee be more of a
liaison between the Council and the board or committee rather than a member of the
board or committee.As it is envisioned,the Council rep would be able to discuss what
he/she thinks the Council would recommend and the rep would also be able to discuss
with the Council the reasoning and thought process behind a commission,board or
committeereCOlIllnendation.
Mayor Oberman asked for a motion to adjoum.Nick Gruber moved.Jeff Mertz second.
Ayes:All.Nays:None.Motion carried 3-0.
Meeting Adjoumed at 9:27 PM.
C.Paardekooper,Deputy Clerk
Attest:
1,Mayor
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